In the East Egypt and Palestine, Origen ca. 240 250 says of himself that initially he was a daily catechist Eus. HE 6,3,1. He distinguishes between entrance to the catechumenatediscipleship and the catechumenal stages. For beginners admitted to catechesis, entrance to the catechumenatediscipleship seems to have included the examination, as in Hippolytus: At the beginning, when you wanted to be catechized, it was right to say to you: Tulsa Map If you would like to serve the Lord, choose today whom you will serve.’ And the catechist said to you: As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!’ Josh 24:15. And about your attitude toward God, you responded in turn to your catechists: We will serve the Lord our God and obey his voice’ Exhort. ad mart. 17. The commitment assumed at the beginning of the catechumenatediscipleship was thus patterned on the dialogue of Joshua with the Hebrews at the time of the covenant of Shechem Josh 24:14, 24, though Origen does not report the precise form of the rite. He confirms the examination: The Christians, to the extent possible, begin by testing the souls of those who want to listen to them, and by forming them in private Contra Celsum 3, 51.